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Sneaky Burrito

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I’m considering to pick up Donaldson’s Mordant’s Need (which for no sensible reasons I have always thought was called Mordant’s Nest), any opinions?

I kinda liked Thomas Covenant's original trilogy, but not enough to pick up the following Chronicles, is Mordant’s Need somewhat similar?
Been a long, long time since I read Mordant's Need. Like, before I moved to Georgia (and I've been here 11+ years now). POV character is easier to sympathize with. Like Covenant, deals with someone from *this* world traveling elsewhere. More of a traditional pseudo-medieval sort of fantasy setting than Thomas Covenant. But my vague recollection is that I enjoyed it. Magic system was way different from Covenant (honestly more defined, with more rules, but not in a Sanderson-y way).
 

fl1pper

Got in a fistfight with Dresden
Been a long, long time since I read Mordant's Need. Like, before I moved to Georgia (and I've been here 11+ years now). POV character is easier to sympathize with. Like Covenant, deals with someone from *this* world traveling elsewhere. More of a traditional pseudo-medieval sort of fantasy setting than Thomas Covenant. But my vague recollection is that I enjoyed it. Magic system was way different from Covenant (honestly more defined, with more rules, but not in a Sanderson-y way).
Stephen Donaldson currently sits on top of my favourite author list, though Steven Erikson is likely to take that honour. I remember enjoying Mordant's need as well but don't recall much about it.

Did you know he has the first of a new trilogy out on November 16th? It's called Seventh Decimate: The Great God's War (Book 1)
 
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Kalavan

Journeyed there and back again
Did you know he has the first of a new trilogy out on November 16th? It's called Seventh Decimate: The Great God's War (Book 1)
Actually yes, I was aware of that, but I usually avoid ongoing series, unless they are written by a selected number of my favorite authors, I'm already struggling enough with the dozen of incomplete series I'm following.
And the kindle edition of Seventh Decimate is currently priced a ridiculous 17,47 dollars, nearly 5 bucks more than the 2 books of Mordant's Need together.
 

fl1pper

Got in a fistfight with Dresden
I understand what you mean about incomplete series, it can very frustrating. As I've explained before I had a huge period of my life where I read very little so I haven't actually read the The Final Chronicles of TC which is on my list in a couple of books time. I'm actually nervous about it because it doesn't get great reviews and I don't want to spoil the first two trilogies which are my favourite books.
 

kenubrion

Journeyed there and back again
Scraping off the dust covering this thread to ask of the Tad Williams' fans, to successfully read Witchwood Crown is it necessary, not necessary, or just recommended to read Heart of What Was Lost? I get how Lost fits in after the trilogy but is it necessary for understanding events in Witchwood. Thanks in advance.
 

TomTB

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I have a question about Michael J Sullivan's books. If starting them, where should I start. Noticed there is a 6 book series starting with The Crown Conspiracy which is now out of print. Or can I start with Theft of Swords, first of the Riyria Revelations series?
 

Kalavan

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They are the same thing, the series was originally self-published by Sullivan in 6 volumes, and later re-printed when picked up by his publisher in 3 omnibus, Theft of Swords does contain the first 2 volumes, The Crown Conspiracy and Avempartha.

Sullivan is now writing several prequels, the Riyria Chronicles, but I'd definitely start from the Revelations
 

kenubrion

Journeyed there and back again
Tom, Sullivan has said that his recommended reading order is the order of publication starting with Theft of Swords as Kalavan said (although Chronicles happens earlier in internal order it was written years later). Now having read both I don't think it matters anymore. I would have been fine going from the last book of Chronicles to Theft of Swords. I'm envious as yur in for some mighty fine readin there, pardner.
 

TomTB

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Cheers fellas, much appreciated. Think it might be my next series after I've finished with the Chronicles of St Mary's, which is great!
 

Kalavan

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As soon as I'll finish The Greatcoats - that, once again, you all should definetely pick up, it is that good - I'm planning to give J.V. Jones a try.

Sword of Shadows seems to be by a distance her best work, but unfortunately no one knows when the final installment will be available. Any insight on The Barbed Coil or The Book of Words?
 

Khartun

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As soon as I'll finish The Greatcoats - that, once again, you all should definetely pick up, it is that good - I'm planning to give J.V. Jones a try.

Sword of Shadows seems to be by a distance her best work, but unfortunately no one knows when the final installment will be available. Any insight on The Barbed Coil or The Book of Words?
Last I heard she was back to writing and had set up a patreon site to help her fund it. That must have been a year ago though. I haven't heard anything since. I've been waiting to start that series until I know she is going to finish it.
 

kenubrion

Journeyed there and back again
Sword of Shadows seems to be by a distance her best work, but unfortunately no one knows when the final installment will be available. Any insight on The Barbed Coil or The Book of Words?[/QUOTE]

Book of Words is wonderful. And well priced as you get all three books for the price of one. You will like it a lot.
 

Kalavan

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Book of Words is wonderful. And well priced as you get all three books for the price of one. You will like it a lot.
Thanks, I did not realize that there is a omnibus edition cheaper than the single first installment I was considering to pick up, bought it.
 

kenubrion

Journeyed there and back again
Has anyone read Prayers In Steel? I bought it on a sale and I need a new book in the grimdark genre.
 

David Sims

Warded demons with Arlen
Book of Words is wonderful. And well priced as you get all three books for the price of one. You will like it a lot.
I've read J.V. Jones' Book of Words trilogy, but I wasn't impressed. It's a passable tale, certainly, but nowhere near being a great read. There's too much attention given to the girl's menstrual cycles, for example, and the author relies overmuch on the standard gimmick of a dropped cup to show surprise on the part of one or another of her characters. From what I've heard, the Book of Words is an early sample of Jones' work, and that she very much improved later, when she wrote A Barbed Coil and her Sword of Shadows series.
 

David Sims

Warded demons with Arlen
I've been meaning to read this series, also. I'll begin with it as soon as I'm finished with the last so-far-released book in The Expanse (Persepolis Rising), and the one GG Kay novel that I've yet to get to (The Children of Earth and Sky). Then Sebastian de Castell's The Greatcoats, and, after that, maybe Brent Weeks' Lightbringer.

Recently, I went back and scanned Jack Vance's Alastor: Wyst novel in order to refresh my memory about the game hussade, a competitive team water sport in which opposing players try to dunk each other into a pool of water located underneath the catwalks or grid of platforms on which the plays take place. The object of the game is to get past the players of the opposing team and reach the team's sheirl, who is sort of a virgin queen, and whose capture is somewhat akin to a checkmate, unless a ransom is paid. The playing continues until the ransom (which increases each time either sheirl is captured) becomes so large that it cannot be paid. Whereupon the player who has managed to do the capturing grabs ahold of a ring at the front of the sheirl's gown and gives it a good yank. This rips away the only clothing the sheirl has and exposes her naked to the cheering audience. There might, or might not, be ha-ha-ha-ha music played by an orchestra as this happens. The Alastor star cluster is large, and the details about the game vary. On most of the planets where hussade is popular, the denuding of the sheirl involves only a brief exposure, and the humiliated girl is handed another robe by her team's coach. By tradition, she has been symbolically ravished and may never again be a sheirl in any game of hussade anywhere.
 

kenubrion

Journeyed there and back again
I've read J.V. Jones' Book of Words trilogy, but I wasn't impressed. It's a passable tale, certainly, but nowhere near being a great read. There's too much attention given to the girl's menstrual cycles, for example, and the author relies overmuch on the standard gimmick of a dropped cup to show surprise on the part of one or another of her characters. From what I've heard, the Book of Words is an early sample of Jones' work, and that she very much improved later, when she wrote A Barbed Coil and her Sword of Shadows series.
Yes, I understand that even fans of her books think Book of Words is sub-par. But it fits the bill for me as a simple story told in the simple way for simple minds like mine. I'm a sucker for that kind of book. But I also like Kings of Paradise which is as far removed from the simplicity of BOW as you can get in grimdark fantasy.