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TomTB

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So all this Abercrombie talk reminded me of something I've been mulling over for a while now. I've read all of the books set in First Law world and I eagerly await for the new trilogy.
However, since they came out I've been avoiding Shattered Sea books because I feel like it will be toned down Joe. And I kinda don't want that. I'm not against YA, I read it regularly (currently Lirael by Garth Nix), but in my head Abercrombie and YA sound just as ridiculous as YA version of Malazan (thank god there isn't one).

Am I completely wrong here guys? He's one of my favorite authors and prospect of enjoying 3 more books by him while waiting for a new First Law trilogy is tempting. But will I be able to enjoy them or are they way toned down for somebody that likes that grimdark aspect of his adult books?
It's pretty much similar writing style to his First Law books, albeit with less reference to testicles/fruits/bollocks etc etc....

I really liked the first book, thought the second one was strong, but felt thoroughly let down by the third.

They are a bit more tame than his other works, but not ridiculously so. I'd say give them a shot, although don't go in with high expectations.
 

Ryan W. Mueller

Ran bridges next to Kaladin
So all this Abercrombie talk reminded me of something I've been mulling over for a while now. I've read all of the books set in First Law world and I eagerly await for the new trilogy.
However, since they came out I've been avoiding Shattered Sea books because I feel like it will be toned down Joe. And I kinda don't want that. I'm not against YA, I read it regularly (currently Lirael by Garth Nix), but in my head Abercrombie and YA sound just as ridiculous as YA version of Malazan (thank god there isn't one).

Am I completely wrong here guys? He's one of my favorite authors and prospect of enjoying 3 more books by him while waiting for a new First Law trilogy is tempting. But will I be able to enjoy them or are they way toned down for somebody that likes that grimdark aspect of his adult books?
It's toned down in terms of language and sex, but there's still plenty of violence. Don't expect it to be First Law and you'll probably be fine.
 

Alucard

In the name of the Pizza Lord. Charge!
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Should I read The Black Company, guys? Seems interesting to me, but I would rather get some advice, first.
People who read Malazan and like it usually like Black Company in a similar way. So, have you read Malazan and how do you like it?
 

Silvion Night

Sir Readalot
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Should I read The Black Company, guys? Seems interesting to me, but I would rather get some advice, first.
It's pretty good in my opinion. But don't let me convince you. Read this post by @Anti_Quated and you'll be running to the book-store to buy the entire series.
 

Silvion Night

Sir Readalot
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People who read Malazan and like it usually like Black Company in a similar way. So, have you read Malazan and how do you like it?
I see you're reading the Gunslinger. How do you like it so far?
 

Alucard

In the name of the Pizza Lord. Charge!
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No. I haven't read Malazan yet. Do you recommend me the series?
Yes. What Wheel of Time represented for fantasy in '90s, that's what Malazan did in '00s.
Malazan is an epitome of epic fantasy, and if you like that subgenre, you must read Malazan as a fantasy fan. I don't think there's anything more epic than it currently.

I could never muster the courage to pick up the third Gunslinger book: two were enough for me.
What do you mean by muster the courage?
 

Maxal

Drinks Elfbark tea with FitzChivalry
What do you mean by muster the courage?
I wasn't sure about it. I thought it was very strange and nothing was explained: I basically had to take everything which is happening a face value without truly understanding why it happens. Also, the characters were very strange and not all that sympathetic. The dialogues were very off-putting, to me at least.

I didn't really feel like reading more of it, I decided it probably wasn't my cup of tea in terms of book.
 

Alucard

In the name of the Pizza Lord. Charge!
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I basically had to take everything which is happening a face value without truly understanding why it happens
I do this every time I pick up a Malazan book :D I love it.

I didn't really feel like reading more of it, I decided it probably wasn't my cup of tea in terms of book.
Ok that makes more sense. When you said 'muster your courage' I thought these books scare you, so you didn't want to subject yourself to more horror.
 

TomTB

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Can anyone recommend me (for a Twitter follower) an epic fantasy style book/series, which is light in number of characters and number of places, and which isn't full of terms to remember?
 

Alucard

In the name of the Pizza Lord. Charge!
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Can anyone recommend me (for a Twitter follower) an epic fantasy style book/series, which is light in number of characters and number of places, and which isn't full of terms to remember?
Michael J. Sullivan might be a fit. 2 main characters, lots of comedy, lighthearted stuff. Don't need much brain power to go through those.
Robin Hobb might work as well.
 

kenubrion

Journeyed there and back again
Michael J. Sullivan might be a fit. 2 main characters, lots of comedy, lighthearted stuff. Don't need much brain power to go through those.
Robin Hobb might work as well.
My strong agreement with Alucard on Michael Sullivan, Tom. It's just so enjoyable, action filled, and full of wry humor between the two very different protagonists. Not a lot of characters, the ones you start with stick around. Enjoyable people to get to know and the action isn't dependent on magic but rather skill. These guys are really dangerous but keep it hidden unless needed. The author recommends starting with the first trilogy, The Ryria Revelations. This is epic fantasy that fits your desires perfectly.

Theft of Swords is the first book.
 

ExTended

Hired Nicomo Cosca, famed soldier of fortune
Can anyone recommend me (for a Twitter follower) an epic fantasy style book/series, which is light in number of characters and number of places, and which isn't full of terms to remember?
Seconding the Michael J. Sullivan recommendations.

Not sure if The Lies of Locke Lamora could be called epic, but it's very close to the requirements mentioned above. The Nigh Angel trilogy is of a similar ink too. Add The Queen's Thief series to the bunch.

The Dagger And The Coin is relatively easy to follow too. There were like three main characters with POVs in the first book if I remember correctly, and it never goes higher than 5 POVs per book and even when it does, it's done very smoothly.

The Chronicle Of The Unhewn Throne is easy to follow almost-epic-fantasy. Quite dumb characters though.

The Lightbringer series has 3 or 4 POV characters for the most part. The magic system isn't very simple, but other than that it's quite fine for newbies.

The Blood Song is also not too complicated, however the second and third book are of a questionable quality.