The Blood Mirror (The Lightbringer) by Brent Weeks

btkong

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#1
Fourth book in the series is out. Been loving the series so far. I was so so about #1, very impressed with #2, enjoyed #3 though felt most of the book was just setting up events for book 4.

Post your ratings/review of the book if you've read it
 

David Sims

Warded demons with Arlen
#2
Haven't bought it yet. I've made a resolution not to pay more than $12 for an e-book, which means I'll have to wait a year or so for the price to come down. Unless it goes on sale. I mean really, the publisher saves a great deal by not having to pay for paper, printing, cover, and binding when he sells an ebook, as compared with the overhead of a paperback. Why won't they pass, say, half of the savings over to us? Greedy, greedy publishers.
 

btkong

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#3
Well just about finished it (less than an hour left). I have the audiobook.

I'm disappointed in this one. Much like the last book, almost nothing happened to move forward the plot. Most of the key characters stayed in the same area doing the same thing the entire book. For example,
Gavin literally stays in a prison, doing nothing the entire book. Kip mostly spend the book in the jungle, watching a guerilla war while trying to bang his wife, and Carris tries her hand at politicking.
That's about all that actually happened.


There were some minor plot advancements, but it was mostly characters talking to each other. There were a few big battles, but nothing compared to the last book or the book before I found.

The author also starts introducing new types of magic into the book which kind of broke the whole systems of magic built up over the first few books (based only on colors). I found this a bit disconcerting. The magic system is one of the main strengths of the book and to suddenly pull out new magics in book four...

Frankly, I felt myself bored part way through and it was a bit of a struggle to stick with it. Mostly nothing happens. I felt the author was trying to shoe in for the next book and dragging the story out so he can earn more cash out of the series.

So far, the worst book since Book 1. Not a bad read, but not what I was hoping. Being generous, I'd rate this about a 3/5. Very disappointing for a book I had high hopes in.
 
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Darwin

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#5
@btkong I actually really liked the direction Weeks went with the magic system. I also thought the writing was very strong, and this really let the characters' blunt speech and profanity stand out in a way that I liked. However, I didn't like how sex was a constant conversation topic and plot device. Every character in every situation was constantly thinking about sex. There was something sexual on every other page. It was way over the top for me. Still, other than that I really enjoyed the book. 4/5 maybe
 

Silvion Night

Sir Readalot
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#6
@btkong I actually really liked the direction Weeks went with the magic system. I also thought the writing was very strong, and this really let the characters' blunt speech and profanity stand out in a way that I liked. However, I didn't like how sex was a constant conversation topic and plot device. Every character in every situation was constantly thinking about sex. There was something sexual on every other page. It was way over the top for me. Still, other than that I really enjoyed the book. 4/5 maybe
That definitely peaked my interest. I've put this on my TBR list.
 

Silvion Night

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#8

btkong

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#9
Yea, the sex talk was just ridiculous. The whole setup was absolutely puerile, with Kip acting like a horny 13 year old. Leader of an Army, magical hero of legend, with a wife built like a porn star that he
spend the entire book trying to...and failing to have sex with
due to a ridiculous plot device.

The whole thing just struck me like Weeks was writing his own prepubescent wish fulfillment.

It just was not done well or written with any finesse.

I was quite disappointed with this book. The ending was good and sets things up for the next book (again). This was the strongest part of the whole book. But overall, yea, I wasn't impressed this time around.
 

Darwin

Journeyed there and back again
#10
What did you think of the author's note at the end? It's like he doubled down on the most ridiculous part of the book for no apparent reason.

Also, it wasn't just Kip. Every PoV character was focused on sex an absurd amount of the time. Every single one. For one character it might actually make sense; it's a major theme in their stream of consciousness that the reader should be aware of. For every character? It's a major theme in the author's stream of consciousness that he couldn't manage to keep hidden for longer than 2 pages.
 

btkong

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#11
Yea, I read / listened to the author's 'explanation' at the end. Be that as it may, just because there is some such...condition, doesn't mean you need to write it into the plot. Frankly, it just didn't work, not for the context of the story. Trying to mention at the end the condition is a real one is a thin cope out -- write a stronger story that doesn't need such a device!

And agreed -- the characters reminiscing about sex every other page was annoying. Again, it felt like the author was writing out his own wish fulfillment into every single character. It significantly impacted the story in a negative way. Again, it makes the whole book feel like a prepubescent 'teen boy fantasy' rather than a more serious novel.
 

David Sims

Warded demons with Arlen
#12
I guess The Blood Mirror will have to come down below $10 before I'll buy it, since it's so uneventful, aside from the xes of course. (Spelled backwards because there might be children present.)
 

kenubrion

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#13
I guess The Blood Mirror will have to come down below $10 before I'll buy it, since it's so uneventful, aside from the xes of course. (Spelled backwards because there might be children present.)
David, do you check out the many bargain priced major series books in the mark-down thread? I feel just as you do. And if you have a desire to get into it with people who feel it's their amazon-given reason for existing to defend the ultra-high prices, check out the Kindle book forum or just the Kindle forum and start a thread about prices. Great holiday fun!
 

Derk of Derkholm

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#14
I must say that I have read the book and quite enjoyed it.

Indeed, I agree with the criticism voiced by most here about the amount of sex ... while it does not bother me in itself, it certainly also does not help the progress of the story, so it is gratuitous and should better have been avoided. Similar to his "Night Angel" trilogy.

I do not agree, however, on the criticism about the magic system.
To me, adding black and white luxin to the other colours is not really a change of the system. Rather it is clearly something that the author had in mind from the beginning and just kept from the reader until now. That way, I find it quite interesting, although I do not yet know where it is going.

Dito on the madness-inducing capabilities of black luxin, that led Gavin to believe his brother was still alive. This is - to me - a story evolving in an interesting way, and I am looking forward to the next book.
 

Sneaky Burrito

Crazy Cat Lady
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#15
I actually did enjoy the process of reading the book (as I have with most of the books in this series), but I'm kind of angry at the ending. Too many loose ends. Too many new stories set up for book 5. This didn't feel self-contained at all, not even for a book in a series. It felt like there was an arbitrary cutoff point at which book 4 was getting too long for the printers. (And yes, I read this in hardcover and it is massive.)

I guess the Gavin/Dazen plot reached an end -- he got out of the cells. And Kip won a big battle. But Liv kind of got dropped -- not that I mind, as the whole seed crystal/bane thing has always been probably the least interesting part for me. But it's like, why put her in there at all? And her father, he got like one POV scene and that was it. Kind of like the random-ass Jaime chapter in A Dance with Dragons. And Karris and Teia didn't have similar significant events to end their parts (not really -- Teia did two assassinations and is now being sent to do another).

Also, while I know that Kip's storyline is important (thanks to multiple explanations of why Blood Forest is important to the Chromeria), it seemed like Kip diverged here, and there were some writing issues. For example:

Longtime enemies with drastically different values systems when it comes to magic start working together but oops, we skip over how exactly Kip got them to do that and cut to the aftermath.

Also, kind of got tired of
Gavin/Dazen crazy scenes in the cells
.

And Ferkudi picking his nose is fast becoming Nynaeve pulling on her braid...
 

David Sims

Warded demons with Arlen
#16
If your hero is in a tight spot at the cliffhanger end of Book 2, just start Book 3 with him all safe and sound and joking to a sidekick about how he got out of that situation with words made indistinct by distance and ambient noise. By the time you're close enough to hear the conversation, it's almost over. The sidekick said "How ingenious!" and the hero says "Ah, it was nothin'." Turn the page.
 

Jon Snow

No Power in the Verse can stop me
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#17
I actually did enjoy the process of reading the book (as I have with most of the books in this series), but I'm kind of angry at the ending. Too many loose ends. Too many new stories set up for book 5. This didn't feel self-contained at all, not even for a book in a series. It felt like there was an arbitrary cutoff point at which book 4 was getting too long for the printers. (And yes, I read this in hardcover and it is massive.)

I guess the Gavin/Dazen plot reached an end -- he got out of the cells. And Kip won a big battle. But Liv kind of got dropped -- not that I mind, as the whole seed crystal/bane thing has always been probably the least interesting part for me. But it's like, why put her in there at all? And her father, he got like one POV scene and that was it. Kind of like the random-ass Jaime chapter in A Dance with Dragons. And Karris and Teia didn't have similar significant events to end their parts (not really -- Teia did two assassinations and is now being sent to do another).

Also, while I know that Kip's storyline is important (thanks to multiple explanations of why Blood Forest is important to the Chromeria), it seemed like Kip diverged here, and there were some writing issues. For example:

Longtime enemies with drastically different values systems when it comes to magic start working together but oops, we skip over how exactly Kip got them to do that and cut to the aftermath.

Also, kind of got tired of
Gavin/Dazen crazy scenes in the cells
.

And Ferkudi picking his nose is fast becoming Nynaeve pulling on her braid...
Rating???
 

Sneaky Burrito

Crazy Cat Lady
Staff member
#18
I saw your post in the other thread. I can add some more ratings tomorrow. I gave this 3 stars on Amazon so I guess that would be about a 5 on a 10-point scale.
 

Red Lion

Killed in the battle against the Mad King
#19
7/10 Because I really like this series though in all honestly I felt this was the worst book in the series but I am hopeful it will end strong.
 

Darwin

Journeyed there and back again
#20
That's what's so odd about it for me. I felt like the book was asymmetric in quality. In many ways it was possibly the best read of the series for me. It's only flaw was the single-mindedness of the author about sex that continuously tried to pull me from the story.